My first class was hatha, I really enjoyed the teacher. She'd always start with slow sun salutations which gradually increased in speed and warming up the body before moving on to other more sustained poses.
My teacher moved away and I briefly did some Iyengar... My teacher encourged me to move quickly from pose to pose with out thinking.... I really really liked this.
Is this the typical defining trait of Iyengar???
After a year or so I shifted to another country and found an Ashtanga class with seriously long held poses..good for opening some areas but requires good conditioning and warm up in the first place..
So then i found another hatha class expecting the gradually increased tempo of sun salutations, but I find this guy goes straight into fairly long held poses and lots of his own spiritual dogma...
I'm looking for something faster and more flowing to compliment the Ashtaga..
Is Iyengar defined by faster more fluid moves or will I find something different again just b/c it's a different teacher??
My teacher moved away and I briefly did some Iyengar... My teacher encourged me to move quickly from pose to pose with out thinking.... I really really liked this.
Is this the typical defining trait of Iyengar???
After a year or so I shifted to another country and found an Ashtanga class with seriously long held poses..good for opening some areas but requires good conditioning and warm up in the first place..
So then i found another hatha class expecting the gradually increased tempo of sun salutations, but I find this guy goes straight into fairly long held poses and lots of his own spiritual dogma...
I'm looking for something faster and more flowing to compliment the Ashtaga..
Is Iyengar defined by faster more fluid moves or will I find something different again just b/c it's a different teacher??
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Re: Iyengar Defintion
Thu, May 17, 2007 - 10:20 AMHi Gerard,
I trained with Iyengar teachers and they do have their own way of teaching this style. you'll find this with most hatha yoga classes, which is sounds like you have. with the Iyengar approach, this is the yoga of action--meaning you hold the poses longer to work certain muscles with the proper alignment (use of props are helpful in this way). to be honest in most of these classes I've taken, we never really practiced sun salutations. when i take a class in another style of hatha yoga, most of the teachers do sun salutations first and then go into the sustained poses and i like it a lot. i bet some of the teachers you worked with had some Iyengar training possibly to focus on the alignment of the poses.
overall, I think it's different for everybody. since it sounds like you're going more toward the Ashtanga flow-style of hatha, I would take different ashtanga classes with different teachers and take it from there.
Good luck,
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Re: Iyengar Defintion
Thu, May 17, 2007 - 10:56 AMI've heard that Mr. Iyengar has said that what he teaches is Hatha yoga and the term "Iyengar Yoga" is something invented by his students. That being said, I think there are quite a few unique things in the style of hatha yoga that we call Iyengar yoga based on some core knoweldge, focus & principles that Mr. Iyengar teaches. You'll probably find a better explaination of exactly what those differences are on the websites or in the descriptions of the teacher training programs at official BKS Iyengar Yoga schools. I think it's quite common to experience yoga classes where yoga teachers combine principles and techniques that they've picked up from different souces. So, that can make it difficult to sort out what style they're teaching. This is also compounded by the tendancy among new yoga schools and teachers to look for ways to claim a unique marketing niche by finding a new name for their class (i.e. urban flow yoga, iyengar flow yoga, purusa yoga, urban rhythms yoga, etc.) This doesn't necessarily mean that all these hybrids are bad, but it can be confusing if people don't fully understand the core principles they're borrowing before they innovate and/or change them. Bottom line: to get a sense of what distinguishes Iyengar yoga from other forms, you need to take a few classes from a few teachers who trained & are certified to teach in that style. -
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Re: Iyengar Defintion
Thu, May 17, 2007 - 12:20 PM<but it can be confusing if people don't fully understand the core principles they're borrowing before they innovate and/or change them>
I agree with you on this. I too have found it confusing.
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Re: Iyengar Defintion
Fri, June 29, 2007 - 1:58 AMGerard,
I started Iyengar Yoga a year ago and the moves are not really faster.
The teachers put a stress on alignment and precision. Iyengar is based on discipline and focus on how you stretch your legs, arms or whatever, how you correct your position etc. Iyengar can seem sometimes therapeutics as you use props such as blankets , ropes and cushions to help your practice. and trust me, you hold the postures so as to open your "dead" areas from your body.
What i found interesting in iyengar is the precision and the assurance of getting a true teaching through patented teachers which means they 're going once a year to Pune, India, to train, they regularly follow classes and summer retreats etc. so as to follow scrupulously the method developped for years and learn new tips and exercises.
What i always heard is you need to see different teachings and teachers, then you choose...
But, to answer your specific question: iyengar is not defined by faster and fluid moves(to my mind), if that's the type of things you re looking for, then i recommand moksha, vihram yoga (hot room), i've been experiencing in Montreal last month. It's really cool and fun. you should try
Hope it will be of little help.
love
Jonathan
